In the case of the goats, everything had to be very quick. Once they've allowed you entry, you can't ask permission. You can't interrupt their work because they are paid very little for killing the animals and the whole family helps: the children carry certain parts of the dead goat; the women skin the animals and walk around with the knives in their mouths...the man is the only one who does the actual killing. But there's a need for hard work, a spiritual need to ask forgiveness, to pray, and so it makes for a strange relationship between death, passion, and spirituality. For a long time, Spaniards, who are the owners of the flocks, have contracted with the Mixtec Indians to do the killing. For them it's a job that pays very little, but there's a spiritual aspect that manifests itself in the praying and asking forgiveness. Maybe the Indians, because of their own conditions in life, need the ritual to forget about the misery they live in. For this project in particular, I had to enter a kind of guiding trance to see quickly, to photograph quickly, to not interrupt their work, and I worked very few days. The trance helped me forget the pain of the goats and the pain of the Indians."